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PORTER COUNTY COUNCIL
Members present were Michael Bucko, Matthew Murphy, Robert Poparad, with Vice President William Carmichael presiding. Also present was Auditor Jim Kopp, Attorney Dave Hollenbeck, and Jan Noll. Mr. Carmichael called the meeting to order with the Pledge of Allegiance. STATUS OF 2007 TAX BILL DISTRIBUTION Mr. Carmichael, I want to report that Dan Whitten wasn’t able to make it tonight. He’s the one that called this meeting. He’s up at the hospital with a relative that’s very ill, in Chicago, so I’ll proceed as the vice chairman to conduct this meeting. I think first of all, David, you want to hear from the Auditor?
Mr. Hollenbeck, Well I was just suggesting that in Dan’s absence, trying to capture what I understood to be his intent this evening, is that would be the… Mr. Hollenbeck, On the status of things, and I don’t know of a better person to do that than the Auditor. Mr. Carmichael, Alright. Mr. Hollenbeck, So if Jim could give us a status report I think that would help all of us understand better where we are in the process. Mr. Kopp, Where we are at today, where we’ve been at the last couple days is that there are nine TIF districts, and the TIF is not working out like it should. We’ve been working with the State. The State is still on the phone now with us. We expect to be done sometime this week, and be able to turn the bills over to the Treasurer to get them out. Mr. Poparad, Is that the abstract that we’re still working on? Mr. Kopp, Yes, the TIF part of the abstract. Everything else is done, and approved by the State, because they’ve been going on with it. The TIF has been messed up for about the last week. Mr. Poparad, Has the abstract, in total, been approved by the State? Mr. Kopp, No, the TIF is part of the abstract. And the State has been going along step-by-step with us, and it is our understanding that a cursory look is all it’s going to take to get it approved, because they’ve been going along checking the numbers as we go. Mr. Poparad, How long have we been working on the abstract? We got that information back from the State in the middle of October? Mr. Kopp, I would guess, six to seven weeks. Mr. Carmichael, Bob, pull your microphone in a little closer, would you. Mr. Poparad, I’m sorry. Mr. Murph, what’s the timeline on the tax bills? Treasurer Jim Murphy, I can get 65,000 tax bills out on the street within six to ten days from the approval of the abstract. If he gets the abstract approved by Friday, November 30th, we can calculate over the weekend, then by Monday the 3rd of December we can have, all of the mortgage companies can be notified then. I’m approximating these dates, because I’m trusting that the IT Department can work with us with the same speed they have worked in the past. The mortgage companies, all the escrow people would have the numbers that they need to pull the numbers to send us a check, and get their bills paid. Those who pay electronically would have all that information on Monday or Tuesday, the 3rd or 4th of December. I would expect that by Thursday, the 6th of December, all of the envelopes would be postmarked and delivered to the Post Office. Mr. Poparad, What do they have, ten days? Mr. Murphy, Excuse me? Mr. Poparad, They have ten days, 15 days? Mr. Murphy, Then statutorily, I’m required to give at least 15 days, that takes us to December 21, which makes me the Grinch that stole Christmas. And I have been contemplating over the last week or two--well two weeks actually--to make every effort to get the bills on the street in the month of December so that folks who have to pay their own taxes by the end of the year can do so. But to move the deadline into January, pending approval by the DLGF, any other agency that wants to cause us any trouble by moving into January, giving the folks on a fixed income the opportunity to get one more social security check or pension check on the 1st of the year, and giving them some days to get that payment in on time. The other reason for that is that we have corporations and mortgage companies who have a difficult time turning a check, turning a bill into a check in two weeks time. So if we get the bills out on the 6th or 7th or 8th, they’re still going to have a hard time making a payment by December 21st. So I’m trying to be as generous as I can with the time limits. Mr. Poparad, Now this is all based on eight hour days? Mr. Murphy, This is all based on the Auditor’s office getting approval from the Auditor of the State… Mr. Poparad, Pardon me, Jim, this is all based on everybody working normal days? So if we worked like, you know, like keep the building lit until 11:00 at night, work two shifts, could we double this? Could we cut this time in half? I know that’s a foreign thought. I’m just throwing that out for discussion. Mr. Kopp, The people working on it are working 10, 11 hours a day now. Mr. Poparad, Then maybe we need more people. More people working on it? Mr. Kopp, It’s a one or two person thing. It’s not; it’s putting in numbers and looking at reports trying to figure out what’s wrong. We’re not going to move up Friday by more than a day or two at best, and if it gets moved up it’ll be because the numbers fall in place. Mr. Carmichael, Jim, is there anybody around that has the expertise to help you out? Mr. Kopp, We were using Sheila Minton, and she had a health problem, and had to quit helping us. But basically, the abstract is done except for the TIF. The TIF has, we have to figure out what’s wrong with the TIF, and we don’t know, and the State’s trying to help us figure out what’s wrong with the TIF. Mr. Carmichael, Could we hire a contractor to come in and help us? Mr. Kopp, I think by the time you got him in and got him up to speed you wouldn’t gain anything. Mr. Carmichael, Well I’m talking about a contractor that’s already up to speed. People who have done this before are around in county government. Mr. Kopp, I don’t know. I don’t think so, but I don’t know. Mr. Carmichael, Well I think you better entertain a motion or at least a notion that we look around for some help, because what I’m hearing, what I’ve heard, okay? Just what I’ve heard, is that people are not working. People have gone home on weekends. People are not here on Friday after Thanksgiving. This is just hearsay, what’s come across my desk. I think that’s unacceptable, and I think it’s time that we hire some expertise to help you to get this thing satisfied, or out in a satisfactory matter. Mr. Kopp, Well we have the State’s expertise. Today is Monday; Friday is four days away. Mr. Carmichael, You are saying you are going to be ready by Friday? Mr. Kopp, We expect to be done by Friday. Mr. Poparad, Okay, and what if we’re not? Mr. Carmichael, Well I’ve got an answer to that, Bob. Let’s shut county government down. There’s just no other way to do it, except shut her down. Mr. Poparad, You know, I guess… Mr. Carmichael, Not buying any gas on the cuff. We’re not buying anything, supplies, whatever the case may be, and let the vendors, put them on notice that we’re not paying for anything until, in January or sometime when we get this mess straightened out. Mr. Kopp, Oh it is a mess. Mr. Poparad, See, I guess… Mr. Carmichael, You just don’t buy anything. Mr. Poparad, You know, and no disrespect, Jim, but I’m not going to drag out the whole friggin year that we’ve had this discussion. I’ll go back to December of last year, we talked about this, and now, here it is a year later, we’re still not done. Provisionals was kicked underneath the bus a long time ago, which that’s another discussion we’ll have. But you’re saying Friday the 20, the 30th. Then we hand it to the State? Mr. Kopp, No, the State will be done by the 30th. Mr. Poparad, Okay, so assuming we… Mr. Kopp, They’re telling me a 24-hour turnaround from when they get it. Mr. Poparad, And that’s assuming they get it on the 29th or the 30th, and then the 3rd, all of a sudden it’s dropped in your lap, and you need x, physically, to do the work. Mr. Bucko, Can there be any extra people on your end added to the process to help get it done? Mr. Murphy, I think there’s a fixed number of hours the IT Department needs to print the bills… Mr. Bucko, Yes, that’s the usual. Mr. Murphy, The contractor comes and picks the boxes up the next morning, provided it’s a Monday through Friday operation, and then they put them in their plant, they fold them and stuff them, and get them out in two and a half, three days time--it would take us a week or so to do that process--they put the postage on them, and get them to the Post Office at a rate that… Mr. Poparad, Alright, yes, we had this discussion nine months ago about the $30,000 of postage it would cost this county to send out provisionals. Mr. Murphy, Bob, excuse me, we… Mr. Poparad, I don’t want to hear about how much goddamn postage we’re going to save by using an outside contractor, okay? Mr. Murphy, That wasn’t the direction… Mr. Poparad, Well, that’s, you know, how much, you know what, we’re done saving money in this building. I mean, you know, we’ve got to do another $300,000 in interest at our December for the County, let alone all these municipalities that are sitting out here. So don’t, please don’t play that we’re going to save a little money gig. I guess I’m just frustrated with the fact, a year we’ve been talking about this, a year ago I asked everybody about provisionals, that’s was poohed, poohed. We could have sent out something. I mean… Mr. Murphy, Bob, the State didn’t approve any county… Mr. Poparad, We never asked the State, Jim. Mr. Murphy, They didn’t approve any counties… Mr. Poparad, You know what, I don’t care what the State said. You sat right here on January 16th and talked about it. It says your reading of the code, it said you may request the use of provisionals if the auditor didn’t provide an abstract by March 16th. You want to go through the whole damn list? I’ve got the whole thing highlighted. It’s all here. All I heard was excuses, not excuses, but maybe explanations about why we can’t get it done. It’s always, we can’t get it done for this, we can’t get it done for that. I’ll be quiet for awhile. Mr. Bucko, If, let me ask this question. What we were saying is, is that if things get turned around and are done by the 30th, then he can take his ball and run with it. That puts you at a December 21st, that’s the last day of the 15th day to get them paid. Mr. Poparad, Paid or out? Mr. Hollenbeck, That’s the… Mr. Bucko, Paid. Mr. Hollenbeck, You have to give the taxpayers at least… Mr. Bucko, Okay, that’s the 15th day. I’m just looking at, if you lose a day on the 30th, and you’re going out to the 22nd to the 23rd to the 28th, you know, is it going to matter three days before Christmas or after Christmas? I don’t think it is. It’s going to be a pinch on the person, the citizen, to get his tax bill turned around and back to this office in one way, shape or form, or do it electronically in an ATA or a credit card. Mr. Poparad, We’re only going to have one payment? Mr. Murphy, Yes, both installments due on the same date. Mr. Poparad, What’s the, if the minimum is the 21st, what’s the maximum then the taxpayer has? Mr. Bucko, Prior to December 31st? Mr. Murphy, There isn’t one. We’re in unchartered territory, Bob. Normally it’s a May 10th, November 10th… Mr. Poparad, Right. Mr. Murphy, Usually it’s only the May 10th that goes late, because you bill both installments. Now we’re billing one installment, both installments at one time. Mr. Poparad, So what if the taxpayers, which I would not begrudge them at all, just say, I’m not paying my taxes til like March. What happens then? Mr. Hollenbeck, Well we establish a due date. It can’t be any sooner than 15 days, and if they pay it after that they would pay a penalty. Mr. Poparad, I think they’ve paid enough penalty, but that’s another philosophical discussion. Mr. Bucko, The only problem with that is if they paid after the 31st, then they don’t, aren’t able to claim in on… Mr. Poparad, On their taxes. Mr. Hollenbeck, That though, Mike, is more of a function of getting the bill out, than it is the due date, and if we get a bill out… Mr. Bucko, The sooner it’s out, yes, you’re absolutely right. The sooner it’s out… Mr. Hollenbeck, Once they get the bill… Mr. Bucko, In their hand… Mr. Hollenbeck, They can pay it. Mr. Bucko, They can take the action required no matter how they pay it. Mr. Poparad, Let me fast-forward, Dave. The State, we run into a roadblock, nothing happens, and the tax bills don’t go out this year. What happens to all the TAW’s that are out there? Mr. Hollenbeck, Well that’s still an issue that is up in the air. I’ve contacted the DLGF on that question, because normally the law provides that we have to pay them by December 31st. Whatever we have to do to not do that you’re going to have to do at your meeting on December 3rd, and I’m still in the process of trying to determine what action I need you to take. I’m operating under the assumption that you’re not going to be able to repay those by December 31st. Mr. Poparad, So that applies to everybody then, the schools, the cities and towns. Woman from the audience, Bob, what was your question? Mr. Hollenbeck, His question was: What happens if we do not have the revenue with which to pay back tax anticipation warrants that we’ve issued, that under normal situations must be paid back by December 31st. Mr. Murphy, We will make weekly distributions, advanced payments of taxes that are collected from the end of the first week that the bills are out there, and we predict that by Monday, the 31st of December, we may have as much as 60 to 75%, because we’ll have the preponderance of the mortgage company money, and all of the taxpayers that want to make sure that they get in by December 31st, we’ll have that in hand, and be able to advance that to all of the taxing units on the 31st or earlier, and earlier, so that, and the County is one of the taxing units to whom we’ll distribute money. I would suspect there would be enough money by that time to pay the year-end bills. I mean I can’t guarantee that, but if these dates hold up we can make that distribution on the last day of the year. Mr. Poparad, Alright… Mr. Hollenbeck, Jim, you… Mr. Poparad, Do… Mr. Hollenbeck, Jim, you borrowed the entire ten million. Mr. Kopp, I have ten million borrowed, and I need money to operate. Mr. Hollenbeck, Right, you and I have talked about that. It would be tight, Murph, because he’s telling me he needs at least another five million to make it to the, that’s 15-million, which is pushing 80% of what we would normally collect for the general fund. Mr. Carmichael, And to that I say, no more. No more borrowing. Jim, you spoke earlier about the escrow companies, the banks and so forth that hold the escrows. Once they get the bill, whatever day that is, how many days does it take them to get a check back to us to walk over here and pay us? What’s the past history on that? Mr. Murphy, In the past we get the bills out early enough, Bill, so that they can, they hold them until the last day, they bring them in on the date before the deadline date. But now that they’re running into the problem of having too much escrow money in their bank account at the end of the year, when the end of the year comes up, they’re going to have to do, make a distribution of that overage, so they’re anxious to pay. So now the preponderance of the mortgage, the escrow payments, are made electronically by service companies, large mortgage companies, and they look at our, they will be able to look at our file on the 3rd of December or the 4th, and they will be able to begin processing the payments on that date, and get that money in. So they’ll have between then and the 31st to get those payments transmitted electronically to our bank account. So that’s why I expect a great deal of interest from the mortgage companies, because it’s going to cause them a lot of trouble if they don’t get the payments made by the 31st. Mr. Carmichael, Well, I think the drop-dead date for this Council to consider what they want to do is December 4th when we hold our regular meeting. Mr. Hollenbeck, December 3rd, Monday the 3rd. Mr. Carmichael, Either do it or get off the pot, one or the other. I’ve just had it with this county government, they way we’ve been operating. Between us and the State of Indiana, it’s been a fiasco. Mr. Hollenbeck, Under the Auditor’s schedule on Monday the 3rd, our next final regular meeting, theoretically, you’ll be done, and you’ll be well on the way. Mr. Carmichael, Well, that remains to be seen. Past history says it won’t work, but let’s see if it will. Let’s open it up to the audience. Anyone in the audience? Sharon. Sharon Swihart is the City’s Clerk. Sharon Swihart, Sharon Swihart, Clerk Treasurer of the City of Valparaiso, and I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but I’ve been at this for a lot of years, and I’ve pretty well pulled all the stops. I’ve borrowed from everywhere I can borrow from. Every fund that we had any extra money in has been borrowed from. I just want to remind Mr. Kopp that this is an urgent, urgent matter for the municipalities. These are firefighters’ paychecks; police officers’ paychecks; trash pickup; street and snow removal. The services that are vital to the people of Valparaiso. The people of Valparaiso who are also your constituents have paid a huge amount of interest money already on borrowed money, because every time we have one of these meetings, this keeps getting put off again and again and again. Every time I come here it’s a different date. I’ve gone ahead, and did what I thought was right with the Indiana Bond Bank for 2008. I’ve rolled over 2007 because I don’t think we’re going to be able to pay them back. You know, it’s just a guessing game day after day as to how we’re going to continue to operate under this circumstance, and I don’t think the City of Valparaiso is alone in this. I think we’re all in this together, but I just want to say that it is extremely urgent that this get taken care of. Thank you. Mr. Carmichael, Yes, in the back row, you want to identify yourself? Jamie Uzelac, Jamie Uzelac, Clerk Treasurer for Hebron. Mr. Murphy said the disbursements could be made weekly. Would that be every Friday? Would they be mailed? Would the clerks be called to pick up the checks? Mr. Murphy, Yes, all of the above. Ms. Uzelac, Okay. Mr. Carmichael, Yes, sir, you want to identify yourself? Jim Burns, Yes, I’m Jim Burns, I’m the Director of Family Focus, we’re a not-for-profit organization that works in Porter County with the families and homes to prevent child abuse and neglect. We’re currently owed by Porter County approximately $500,000 for services. And our services are really cost effective, it keeps the kids out of the institutions, and saves the county taxpayers a lot of money. I have 60 employees. We’ve had to go to the bank to get, and extend our lines of credit and pay interest, to continue to serve Porter County. We’re not charging Porter County the interest that we are paying; we’re just going to take that loss, but I hope that we can all work together to expedite this, because we probably won’t get paid now for the services for this year until February or March. So I’m happy you called this meeting to expedite the process. Thank you. Mr. Carmichael, Thank you. Jan. Jan Meyers, Jan Meyers, Jackson Township Trustee. Murph, don’t shoot me, but I have people calling and they want to know if they can come in and pay at least a portion of their taxes even though they don’t have a bill in hand. They can go on the net, look up what their 2005 pay 2006…
Mr. Poparad, Well that going to segue right into my next discussion. Do we have last year’s tax bills for Sharon and her husband. I’m sorry, you’re sitting in the front row, so you’re going to be it. Can we send out an estimated bill right now, 80%, of what she paid last year--and her husband, of course, he pays taxes too--and just keep this going. And no disrespect, Jim, but the bottom line is, I’ve sat here for a year, and between this building I’ve just heard date after date after date, and it’s not happened. So you know what, let’s just fast-forward, we make it happen. Mrs. Lippens, If we’re looking at having state approval by Friday, doing the provisionals… Mr. Poparad, No, no, no, no, no, no, I don’t care about the State. I don’t care about the DGLF. I don’t care about Melissa Henson, whose gone, anybody else, all I care about is the people in this county. If we send out 80% of last year’s tax bill, and hopefully pick up the pieces next year. Is that possible? Mrs. Lippens, It’s got to be Jim Murphy’s call, because he’s the one that has to get approval from the State. Mr. Murphy, I don’t know, Bob. I don’t know. Mr. Poparad, Well we have last year’s tax bills. Mr. Murphy, We probably do, yes. Mr. Poparad, I just picked 80%, something to keep Sharon from laying off fireman, the other Sharon, so she can plow her streets. Shirley. Shirley LaFever, I have a suggestion. I suggested this earlier. We have Dale Brewer who used to do the abstract many years ago. The abstract might have changed a little bit, but I’m sure it still follows the same sort of procedure. Has Dale Brewer been asked to help? Mr. Poparad, I don’t know, I’m not the Auditor. Jim? Mr. Kopp, No. Mrs. LaFever, So I’m asking now. Mr. Poparad, He said no. Mrs. LaFever, Jim’s saying… Mr. Poparad, I’m past that. I’m past asking Mr. Kopp, and Mr. Murphy, and Mr. Scott, what we can do to help. I’m past that. Mrs. LaFever, Well I’m suggesting… Mr. Poparad, Okay, that’s fine. That’s fine, that’s great. I’m ready to make a motion, now whether it carries any weight or not, I don’t know, that we send out… Mr. Carmichael, Just a minute, Bob. Let’s let the audience… Mr. Poparad, I told you I would be nice. Mr. Hollenbeck, Is that what you’re being? Mr. Carmichael, Would you identify yourself? Ed Gutt, Ed Gutt from Porter County. Mr. Bucko, I think he’s doing a fine job. Mr. Carmichael, Wait a minute. Hang on just a minute. Yes.
Mr. Gutt, It’s kind of amusing to sit here and listen to you folks. I’ve been on this through the newspapers and so forth, and it’s something like the Keystone Cops would do. I really don’t understand. I did talk to a person who had some authority a year ago, the same lines that Bob’s talking about right now. These could have been sent out. We could have had a bill. We could have paid it. If it would have been too much or less, we’d of paid the difference when we got the other one. That way, you guys wouldn’t have had to borrow money, and you wouldn’t had to go the route. Mr. Carmichael, Okay, thank you very much. Anyone else? Now, Bob, what’s your… Mr. Poparad, I’m done. I just, can it be done? I guess that’s my question. Can we send out estimated 80%--I just picked 80%, because who knows what the real number is--of everybody’s bill, and get something rolling here.
Mr. Hollenbeck, Our ability to print and distribute real estate property bills in the function and the authority that’s granted to us by the State of Indiana, by way of the Indiana Department of Local Government Finance, so Murph, you’d have to pick up the phone in the morning and call Musgrove, and see what they would do. And I think Murph is right, I do not believe they have granted any county in the state the authority to send out… Mr. Hollenbeck, Yes, you do. Mr. Poparad, We do? Mr. Hollenbeck, Again, our ability to impose a real estate property tax is a function of the State of Indiana delegating that authority to us by way of state statute. The statute says that the state agency known as the Indiana Department of Local Government Finance must review, and approve, and certify as accurate tax rates before we have the authority. That’s why literally what we get is an order from the DLGF authorizing the auditor and the treasurer to print and distribute real estate property tax bills. Mr. Poparad, They’ve certified the tax rates, haven’t they, Jim? Mr. Kopp, Yes. Mr. Poparad, Tax rates have been certified. Mr. Hollenbeck, But the abstract is the process they have not approved. Mr. Poparad, Right. Mr. Hollenbeck, I guess the short way to answer your question, Bob is, even the issuance of provisional bills would have to be a function of the approval of the Indiana Department of Local Government Finance.
Mr. Bucko, If I remember correctly, back when we were talking about provisional bills, is that, when you did a provisional bill you were limited to the percentage of the last year’s tax, it was somewhere in the 45% range is all you could do a provisional for. There was then, approximately, I don’t know if this was a figure of those that may not be challenged or whatever, but you could look at an unchallenged percentage rate of that to be about 36%. That may not be right, you’re looking at an old mind that’s trying to remember that. So at this time, and that’s the reason why I for one said, you know, I remember the 1990’s when they switched from four-year, from a ten-year assessment to a four-year assessment. It’s worse than it is, it was bad then because we did the provisional bills, and I just remembered, the institutional memory was very strong at that time, and that’s why I voted against the provisional bills. Mr. Hollenbeck, It seems to me that the relevant factor in your decision is the reliability of Friday’s date, candidly, Jim. I mean if that’s a reliable date, and the stuff will get to Murphy, and he’s on the street on the 6th, you’re not going to get provisional bills out any sooner than that in terms of that process. So your evaluation of your options is one’s ability to read the proverbial crystal ball, which has not been real clear in the past, as to when that bill’s going to hit the street, and I think that’s the difficult task you have is determining the viability of that latest projected date from the Auditor on Friday. Mr. Poparad, Okay, let’s, so we fast-forward to Friday, and Mr. Kopp gets his work done, the State said 24-hour turnaround. Mr. Kopp, Yes. Mr. Poparad, That’s their story, and they’re sticking to it. I mean the State hasn’t, you know, the State is part of this discussion, which, you know, we’ve all sort of overlooked to, I don’t know what percentage should be part of the State, but. Mr. Kopp, Bob, all I can tell you is they’ve gone through it as we’ve gotten parts of it done to get us into other parts of it. They say it’s correct. TIF has been a problem for the last week along with Boone Township. Boone Township is corrected with the assessed value. We’ve got TIF’s that don’t work out right, and they’re trying to figure out what’s wrong. They said we are very close. Mr. Carmichael, It only counts in horseshoes. Mr. Kopp, I’m repeating what the lady… Mr. Carmichael, If we’re not, haven’t met all our deadlines by the 4th, I’m prepared to take some very drastic action with this county government. I’ve just had it up to here. I haven’t said much at previous meetings. I’ve gone along with it, but I think the buck stops right here. Mr. Poparad, Do we need to do something? Is there anything we can do? I mean we’ve sat here for a year, and asked you guys what do you need, and we’ve done some things. Mr. Murphy, Bob, I’ve been ready since April with the six to nine day schedule. I’m just waiting on the Auditor to say: The Auditor of the State has approved the abstract, here’s the work order, let’s go. I mean I’ve been, it’s just… Mr. Poparad, Now I’m assuming that weekends is not going to get in the way of this process, is it? Mr. Murphy, It may with some of the mailings towards the tail end depending on the day… Mr. Poparad, No, I meant weekends on our end. Mr. Murphy, No, weekends on our end, nothing will be… Mr. Poparad, Jim, if you can get this done, to them, if you can get this to the State by the 29th, could we have it back by the 30th? Mr. Kopp, I expect it’ll be to the State by Wednesday, and we should have it back the 29th, but that’s as of 4:30.
Mr. Poparad, So if you get it back the 29th, then you could start… Mr. Poparad, The same day or… Mr. Murphy, Exactly, the same day. Mr. Poparad, Sharon, you’re all set on your end? You got the computers all warmed up, and the ink in the little jet thing, and the posting machine all licked, and ready to go. Mrs. Lippens, I’m just waiting for the little rabbit to go so he can take off. Mr. Poparad, Give the rabbit some pellets. Mr. Carmichael, Anyone else? There being no further discussion, meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m.
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